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I think my only real problem with it is everything is to the left of center. It appears more then a third of the right side of the screen is used up by links and dead space, making things a little awkward on a 20 inch monitor because everything else is shifted so far to the left. With the current version, everything is centered nicely making it easier to read. The lemonade color scheme seems a little garish as well compared to the nice subtle gray. I do like having the recent comments on the right hand side, though this site gets commented on a little faster then I can follow. I also like having direct links to some of the account things, like messages there.
As I just replied to your PM:
I use a 20" iMac at home, and I haven't had a problem with it. The thing is, it's not 1/3 of the screen - it's 255 pixels at max - shouldn't get any wider. On a 20", you should see the vast majority of the text widely spaced across the page.
I see similar on my 22". The right hand area doesn't seem to be right aligned to the page so there is a chunk of dead space to the right of it between it and the page boundary.
Also I'd suggest, that the right hand stuff needs *something* to differentiate it from the main content, be that boxing it, putting some divider, but as it stands it is quite distracting when scanning across the page/articles/comments to have text just hanging there.
completely agree ... why, o why, it does not uses 99% of my page with? It looks really silly on my 1420 x 1024 screen.
Here is what i mean: http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/9798/wastedhc7.png
Edited 2007-03-22 20:17
Centres up fine for me (1600x1200, Firefox, Opera, Konqueror) - perhaps it's been fixed now, ALTHOUGH IE6 spreads it across the whole screen (less good).
I rarely run my browser full width anyway because lots of sites crunch up to the left, and 1600 is just too wide for browsing.
I normally run Opera with 120% zoom on the page as standard (nice feature), as 1600x1200 is great for my graphics work, less good for reading in a browser.
RSS
Javascript
So this is the "Internet Explorer Only" version of OSnews?
Welcome to 2007, dude. I know this is an obvious troll, but for the record, I've tested the site in Safari, Camino, Firefox, Opera, and IE7. CSS, RSS, and JS are all cross platform technologies, most of which are better supported than browsers other than IE.
I like the avatar feature too
I would prefer it if the navigation bar was on the left (the whole site feels slightly back-to-front to me), but thats not a big complaint to be honest.
In general, I like the changes. A bit of tweaking during the beta period and I think you'll have a winner
I think that the default avatar is way too intrusing. It really looks as if ssomebody is talking to himself all the time.
In general, I do NOT like the avatar idea, at leasst design-wise. The beta site looks OK and uniform now, but when people start coming up with their own avatars it will turn tur into a cachophony of shapes and colors. Perhaps limit it only to chosing one of OSNEWS predesigned avatars?
Love the new feature list! Congratulations to OSNews on getting the infrastructure together.
The new look is pretty scary. The OSNews logo is a little too web2.0ified for my tastes, and the "Submit News" button looks quite unprofessional. Plus, it wouldn't be a bad idea to columnize things again so that everything doesn't just flow out of everything else.
Still, always nice to see OSNews come out with a new version of the site. There has definitely been a lot of hard work that should be appreciated.
There is too much clutter. The news features (especially the headlines) are hard for the eye to skim. And the lines of text grow too wide to read in a big window.
Here's an example of what I mean: The headlines have one indention due to the star icon on the left. Then comes the dating with another indention and then the main text with a third kind of indention and the comment count with a fourth indention. This stuff needs rational alignment.
All-in-all: Better alignment, more boxes and more spacing. That's how you make stuff easy for the eye, and that's really a key concept when you make a site that people skim through 2-3 times a day.
Sorry to say so, but I really think you can come up with something better.. or at least improve stuff.. I don't mean to say "redo the whole thing".
I like the fresh colors though. The current OSNews is a bit sad... you should do more prozac commercials
Edited 2007-03-22 15:03
Instead of the "Add Bold" and "Add Italic" (or was well as?) how about using the
document.selection.createRange().text
document.getSelection()
window.getSelection()
functions to allow a person to type, drag select the text and click the button (which would then grab the selected text, parse it and paste it back in?
Oh, the text selecting functions do work within the textarea, the problem is then finding out if it was already within the textarea, and if so, replacing the existing subset (as you say).
The other conditions are all easy (because text is just added at the end of the textarea in those cases)
I'm heading off for the weekend now but if I manage to come up with something for that that you can pop in place, would you want it?
I would like to be able to click on the link of pending news.
Today you can see the list of news not published, submited by readers. I would like to be able to see which article they are refering to because:
1) I don't want to link the same article.
2) Sometimes I saw interesting articles that the 'moderators' are not interested in and thus not published.
Thanks!
It's definitely good to see osnews step up to the plate to update a bit, and I generally like the new layout. I will agree with some other commenters that there are a few things to look at:
-new logo is too web 2.0
-things seem to be a bit left
-there should be more boxing or dividers or something to keep the meat of the content as the focus
-submit news image looks like something from a late 90's site that said "Under Construction"
OSnews is probably the most important news site to me, second only to my personal email as something that I keep up with, so it's nice to keep the simplicity to it. I'm very excited to see the preview of the new layout, and hope with some tweaks we see it soon.
Nice features, but I don't really like the look. Too bland for my taste. That submit news button... the font doesn't does well with the overall look, and the inclination serves no purpose. The right bar really needs some love, you need better separation between blocks.
As I said, the features are great, but the look needs major improvements and polishing. Keep the good work guys!
Interestingly, none of my Firefox browsers seem to be able to render the stuff on the right side of the site (recent comments, etc.). 3 different distros and a Windows machine, and none of them seem to be able to do it (yes, javascript is turned on); it shows up at the bottom of the screen. Opera and IE seem to be fine, though...is there something I'm missing?
Edited 2007-03-22 15:12 UTC
I miss not having theme options in user preferences. It's nice to be able to switch between the blue and green themes from time to time.
Also on the front page and comment pages, I don't like how all the articles are simply separated by empty space on the page. I like how the previous setup was with each article summary and each comment being in it's own aesthetically pleasing box.
OK just reading about this, first thing, top has background color, bottom does not. I'll be looking at your CSS, though I know that will evolve. The end product I am sure will be quite excellent. However If
I look at current site, it's quite excellent already.
I can see you intoducing some new features. Anyway don't rush. We shall do cross-browser testing.
That's intentional; it's called a gradient.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gradient
There isn't any favicon with the new logo. And I think OSnews team should do a clean up in the CSS at http://www.cleancss.com
I like more the menu in the left and the news on the right.. :-)
Good work!
* Revamp of comments is nice.
Two major dislikes:
- The lack of separation between stories (versus current "box" and space between each story which makes it easy to read through titles fast)
- The left alignment (versus current center). At least invert columns - menu/tools on left so it would make the beginning of main story around center.
- The lack of separation between stories (versus current "box" and space between each story which makes it easy to read through titles fast)
I agree, but that could easily be fixed by putting background on the headline.
- The left alignment (versus current center). At least invert columns - menu/tools on left so it would make the beginning of main story around center.
I am a fan of centering the output within X% of the screen area, but that's me...
Edited for typo!
Edited 2007-03-23 10:49 UTC
I love the new design! The only thing I would change is the font of the "Submit News" link at the top right. The "stencil" style is indicative of a fact or information, not exactly of interactivity.
Unrelated: you guys need an internet radio show! Get some guests and discuss things! That would be greattt.
Finally, no more click-through moderation. Instant AJAXy moderation is mucho bettero.
A few things:
-Get rid of the huge submit news button in the corner.
-Make the text under the logo "exploring the future" darker so it can be read on the background
-Make a fixed width version of the site, 800-900 pixel ought to be enough.
Great job overall I think.
This is true, definitely much better.
Don't get rid of that button, it's a good idea.
This doesn't matter, no one reads it anyway; but it is really hard to read on my CRT, easy on my LCD.
Liquid is the way the web was meant to be, make more of it liquid if you can.
Thank you very much for all your hard work.
Just to my eye, but a small amount of line space between the headline (and the linked line) and then the summary text might help. And perhaps it might look neater if the summary text didn't run round the icon but stayed to the right of it?
Everything works out nicely on my widescreen here, anyway, better than do many sites which are set up for 4:3 but struggle to manage 16:9.
The submit news button looks painfully out of place with the rest of the site.
I'd go to putting it as "just another link" on the site, if you want it to be prominent then in the top menu but not as a huge great image there.
If it was there to try and balance out the top of the page, you need another plan for that because it looks tacky.








